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Author:  PUCKMAN [ Sun Apr 25, 2010 6:16 am ]
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Are there times when we work with power de-energized it is considered working hot. For example when replacing a motor in kind or with a larger one where wiring has to be done in order to complete the task ? I am sure there are other examples of this work.

I thought that I read that if you changed the condition of a circuit in anyway it was the considered as working hot even if the power was disconnected at the time of making the change.

The reason i ask this is because some QE people are using this as a way to do electrical work when they have not been trained to do any, they are trained to test fuses and verifiy power.

Author:  Volta [ Sun Apr 25, 2010 7:42 am ]
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PUCKMAN wrote:
Are there times when we work with power de-energized it is considered working hot. For example when replacing a motor in kind or a larger one where wiring has to be done in order to complete the task ? I am sure there are other examples of this work.


Do you mean when the supply of energy has been verified as disconnected? I don't understand your question.

Author:  haze10 [ Sun Apr 25, 2010 8:13 pm ]
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The circuit is considered hot until you verify that it is de-energized. Once de-energized, new circuit or old, its not hot.

Author:  stevenal [ Mon Apr 26, 2010 12:14 pm ]
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I differ. The circuit is hot until it is isolated, grounded and tested. You are asking in the NESC forum where utility rules apply.

Author:  haze10 [ Tue Apr 27, 2010 8:56 pm ]
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Agreed, if he meant a MV or HV circuit grounding is necessary. If low voltage, then just proof of de-energized and LOTO.

Author:  toolbbin [ Sun May 08, 2011 7:33 am ]
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sorry for not getting back sooner and for posting in the wrong forum. I am talking about
Lv and i guess i am wrong about what working hot is. got my answer, thanks

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